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How to spot a fake fan

How to spot a fake fan

In this week's Premier Skills English podcast, Rich and Jack talk about two rounds of action from the Premier League and talk about some phrases that can help you spot a fake football fan. The language focus is on 'should' and 'shouldn't'. We also have a new football phrase for you to guess. Enjoy!

Vocabulary

How much did you understand?

In the podcast, Rich and Jack used some words and phrases that might be new for you. You can see two examples here: 

Chelsea edge closer to the Premier League title.

Get in! What a goal!

There were a few more tricky words in the podcast. Can you remember all of them? Try the activity below, then, listen to the podcast again to hear how we used the words in context. This can really help with understanding.

Activity 1

In this activity, have a look at the vocabulary and try to match it to the correct definition. ​
New Vocabulary.

What do football fans eat at half time?

Language

Phrases Football Fans Should and Shouldn't Use

In this week's podcast, Jack and Rich spoke about how to spot a fake football fan. Here are some phrases that you will hear from real football fans and some phrases from fake football fans. Can you spot the difference? 

Get in! A slam dunk!
Who's playing? What's the score?
May the best team win. They were so lucky!
I support Utd. I support Manchester.
What's offside? He was miles offside, ref!
That result has ruined my weekend. It's only a game. Don't worry.

Spurs players are very happy with their win at Swansea.

Language

Should and Shouldn't

In the last exercise we asked you to compare phrases that football fans should and shouldn't say. We use these words to give advice. If we say we 'should do something' it means it is a good idea to do it. If we say we 'shouldn't do something' it is a bad idea. Should is followed by the infinitive.

You should get some more exercise, Rich!

Thanks Jack! You should eat more green vegetables!

Take a look at this activity and decide if each sentence offers good or bad advice.

Activity 2

In this activity, decide which things people should try to do and which things people should try not to do.
Group the ideas together.

Wilfried Zaha is our Player of the Week.

Transcript

If the listening was a bit difficult, you can listen again and read the transcript at the same time.
Read and listen.

Rich: I was speaking to a this guy the other day and I said what team do you support? You won’t believe what he said.

Jack: What did he say?

Rich: He said he supported London.

Jack: Really??

Rich: I said London Utd or London City. He said Utd of course.

Jack: Brilliant.

Welcome

Rich: Hello my name’s Rich
 
Jack: and I’m Jack
 
Rich: and welcome to this week’s Premier Skills English podcast
 
Jack: Where we talk about football and help you with your English.

Jack: What’s happening this week, Rich?
 
Rich: In this week’s show, we’re going to talk about the double matchweek in the Premier League and we’re going to look at some phrases that you can use to spot a fake fan.

Jack: But first, let’s look at the Premier League headlines.

Headlines

Rich: Chelsea edge closer to the Premier League title.

Jack: After a surprising defeat to Crystal Palace, Chelsea bounced back by beating Manchester City. The Blues lead the Premier League by seven points with eight matches left to play.

Rich: Spurs stun Swansea with fast finish.

Jack: Chelsea’s closest challengers are Tottenham Hotspur but they left it late against Swansea. Spurs scored three goals in the last three minutes to win 3-1 and leave Swansea in the relegation zone.

Rich: Hull plan a great escape.

Jack: Hull City’s revival under their new manager continued. Two home wins this week has lifted the Tigers out of the relegation zone for the first time since October.

Rich: We don’t talk about Hull much but they are doing really well under their new manager Marco Silva.

Jack: He’s unbeaten at home as a manager in 40 matches with four different clubs. Estoril and Sporting Lisbon in Portugal, Olimpiakos in Greece and now Hull in the Premier League.

Rich: Incredible. He could save the Tigers from relegation.

Topic/Language Focus

Rich: In this week’s podcast, we’re going to help football fans spot a fake football fan

Jack: What do you mean a fake football fan Rich?

Rich: You know, not a real fan. Someone who pretends to be a fan. 

Jack: You mean like someone who says they support Manchester?

Rich: Exactly, they don’t know there are two teams in the city. A fan would say City or United. 

Jack: Yes. That would be like me saying I support London.

Rich: We’re going to help you spot one of these fake fans.

Jack: So, we’re going to look at some phrases that real football fans say and phrases that fake fans say when talking about football.

Jack: Where shall we start?

Rich: Let’s begin with some general questions that fake fans might ask football fans when watching a match

Jack: You can spot a fake fan if they ask things like: ‘What’s happening now?’ or ‘Why does the referee have his flag up?’ or the worst one ‘What’s offside?’

Rich; That’s right. And, they will just annoy real football fans. If you’re new to football and don’t want to sound like a fake fan, you shouldn’t ask these questions at a football match - you should find out before you go..

Jack: So, here are some football phrases that you can use to spot a fake fan. 

Rich: Let’s imagine that you are at a football match with some friends and you hear someone say.

Jack: I think this is going to be a great game. May the best team win.

Rich: Fake fan immediately! No real fan says this. Real fans  don’t care how they win. They can cheat, they can foul but they must win. Yes, it’s better if they are the better team but it’s not the most important thing.

Jack: So what should you say?

Rich: I don’t know - something like: Come on! We’ve got to get three points today.

Jack: What about when your team scores a goal?

Rich: You’ll probably hear something like: Get in!

Jack: If you hear slam dunk! You’ve got a fake fan on your hands.

Rich: Michael Jordan is not on the football pitch. A slam dunk is only used in basketball - if you say slam dunk you will sound silly. ‘Get in’ sounds natural but remember to sound happy or possibly a little bit aggressive when you say it.

Jack: When the other team scores a fan is going to say something like: you have to be joking or come on, we can get back into this.

Rich: If you hear: That was a good goal or the other team are much better, aren’t they? He or she is faking it. 

Jack: Don’t say this. You might make other fans angry. It’s not important if it’s true. You should keep quiet. When the other team score you can be cross or supportive but don’t say the other team is better or that they deserve to be winning.

Rich: What if you’re watching a match at home and a friend walks in and says: Who’s playing?

Jack: Fake fan, definitely. A fan might say What’s the score? But, they would definitely know who’s playing.

Jack: At the end of the match if Arsenal have lost I might say: The other team were lucky or if we have won I might say good result.

Rich: That’s because you’re a real fan, Jack! Whatever you do don’t say: Ah well, it’s only a game.

Jack: This will make a real football fan angry.

Rich: We get angry, very easily, don’t we.

Jack: Not if we win, Rich.

Rich: So, there are a few football phrases for football fans and non-football fans to use when talking about the match.

Jack: We’ve got a few more of these phrases further down the page, under this podcast and some language activities for you to look at.

Player of the Week

Rich: There were lots of great performances in the Premier League last week.

Jack: Son Heung Min scored in both matches for Spurs as Tottenham got two away wins at Burnley and Swansea. And Jamie Vardy also scored in both of Leicester’s wins against Sunderland and Stoke.

RIch: That’s six wins out of six for Leicester under their new manager - Craig Shakespeare. 

Jack: But our player of the week comes from the team performance of the week. That was Crystal Palace’s win away at Chelsea. And the player is Wilfried Zaha. He was the man of the match. He scored one and made the other in a 2-1 win.

Rich: You can read more about Zaha in our player article on the side of this page. He’s had an interesting career at both club and international level and he’s only 24 years old.

Can you work out this week’s football phrase?

Rich: Have you got a football phrase for us this week?

Jack: Yes, I have, but first, last week’s football phrase. The phrase was ‘a back four’. The back four is the name that we commonly use for the defence when there are two centre backs and two full backs.

Rich: We often describe this as a flat back four, too. Emir from Bosnia mentioned this in his answer so a special well done to him. And to Liubomyr from Ukraine, too, who didn’t give up and got the answer right on his third go.

Jack: Well done also to Ahmed Adam Mamado from Sudan, Numrut from Ukraine and Kwesimanifest from Ghana. You also got the right answer!

Rich: What’s this week’s phrase?

Jack: This week’s phrase is a bit difficult I think. The phrase is to ** *** ****** ****. It means to beat a team twice in one season. If you beat a team at home and away you ** *** ******* **** them.

Rich: Chelsea have **** *** ****** **** Manchester City. They beat them 3-1 away from home and this week beat them 2-1 at home. And Liverpool have **** *** ****** **** Everton this season.

Jack: I thought you might mention the derby double this week, Rich!

Rich: Right, that’s all we have time for this week. 

Jack: Don’t forget to write your answers to our questions and make a guess at our football phrase in the comments below. 

Rich: Bye for now and enjoy your football!

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What do you think?

In this week’s podcast, Jack and Rich gave you a few phrases that might be used by fans that pretend they know about football.

  1. Is football the most popular topic of conversation in your country? What other topics do people often talk about? 

  2. Do you know anyone who pretends to know a lot about football? Would you describe these people as fake fans?

  3. Have you heard any strange phrases from 'fake' football fans? Should people talk about topics they don't know much about? 

Remember to write your guess at this week's football phrase and the questions above in the comments section below.

If you want us to correct your English, just write 'correct me' at the beginning of your comment.

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Liubomyr
07/04/2017
UA
9369
points

I think that the phrase is to ‘** *** ****** ****’.


Liubomyr
07/04/2017 16:08
Ukraine
Watford
9369

I think that the phrase is to ‘** *** ****** ****’.

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admin
07/04/2017
GB
7601
points

Well done Liubomyr - first comment and first correct answer and first time!


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admin
07/04/2017 19:53
United Kingdom
Arsenal
7601

Well done Liubomyr - first comment and first correct answer and first time!

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Emir Veličanstveni
07/04/2017
BA
14341
points

This week's phrase is ***** *** ******.


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Emir Veličanstveni
07/04/2017 22:20
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Arsenal
14341

This week's phrase is ***** *** ******.

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shobonenok
09/04/2017
RU
9234
points

Correct me.
I can't tell on behalf of the whole Russian and even Moscow population speaking about the most popular topics. However, I can do it on behalf of students. Lots of us discuss football: Russian, international and foreign. English and Spanish leagues are the most popular among abroad ones. The other topics are: education, career, relationships.
I have several friends who knows a lot about their football clubs or national teams which they support, not about the whole football. One of my best friends knows a lot about Spartak Moscow (his father and grandfather support this club too), Arsenal, Barcelona and Borussia Dortmund. However, he knows a lot about Man Utd, Newcastle Utd, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. If I tell him that he is a fake fan because he knows a lot about football, he will probably get hot under the collar and it will be better for me to say it was a joke to avoid being thrashed :D
In my point of view, it's better to avoid lying. If someone is going to watch the football match first time during his life - please, don't pretend to be a fan or a wiseacre! Recently my mates from the Spartak's supporters community and I have met at the pub to watch the friendly game against Crvena Zvezda (from Serbia). I decided to invite my groupmate from the university to join us. During the match he often asked us who is the player with the ball, who has just scored and other similar questions. At the end of the day, he told us that Crvena deserved to win (2-1). Fortunately, it was not a derby or a showdown because in that case my mates would probably make my groupmate eat his words and I would be impotent to protect him.


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shobonenok
09/04/2017 10:40
Russia
Manchester City
9234

Correct me.
I can't tell on behalf of the whole Russian and even Moscow population speaking about the most popular topics. However, I can do it on behalf of students. Lots of us discuss football: Russian, international and foreign. English and Spanish leagues are the most popular among abroad ones. The other topics are: education, career, relationships.
I have several friends who knows a lot about their football clubs or national teams which they support, not about the whole football. One of my best friends knows a lot about Spartak Moscow (his father and grandfather support this club too), Arsenal, Barcelona and Borussia Dortmund. However, he knows a lot about Man Utd, Newcastle Utd, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. If I tell him that he is a fake fan because he knows a lot about football, he will probably get hot under the collar and it will be better for me to say it was a joke to avoid being thrashed :D
In my point of view, it's better to avoid lying. If someone is going to watch the football match first time during his life - please, don't pretend to be a fan or a wiseacre! Recently my mates from the Spartak's supporters community and I have met at the pub to watch the friendly game against Crvena Zvezda (from Serbia). I decided to invite my groupmate from the university to join us. During the match he often asked us who is the player with the ball, who has just scored and other similar questions. At the end of the day, he told us that Crvena deserved to win (2-1). Fortunately, it was not a derby or a showdown because in that case my mates would probably make my groupmate eat his words and I would be impotent to protect him.

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Rich
11/04/2017
ES
2921
points

Hi Shobonenok,

I hope your football friends will go easy on your university friend! We've all got to learn somewhere! I've made a few corrections below. Let me know if you have any questions.

I can't tell talk on behalf of the whole Russian and or even Moscow population speaking about the most popular topics. However, I can do it on behalf of students. Lots of us discuss football: Russian, international football and foreign leagues. The English and Spanish leagues are the most popular among abroad foreign ones. The other topics are: education, career, relationships etc.
I have several friends who knows a lot about their football clubs or national teams which they support, but not about the whole of football. One of my best friends knows a lot about Spartak Moscow (his father and grandfather support this club too), Arsenal, Barcelona and Borussia Dortmund. However, he knows a lot about Man Utd, Newcastle Utd, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, too. If I tell him that he is a fake fan because he knows a lot about football, he will probably get hot under the collar and it will be better for me to say it was a joke to avoid being thrashed(this sounds old fashioned) beaten up :D
In my point of view, it's better to avoid lying. If someone is going to watch the a football match for the first time during his life - please, don't pretend to be a fan or a wiseacre (this is very uncommon and old fashioned - 'smart-aleck' 'know-it-all' or 'know-all' are better or 'wiseass' but this last one is a bit rude and could offend if used in some situations!! Here is a podcast about the word 'wiseacre' Recently my mates from the Spartak's supporters community and I have met at the pub to watch the friendly game against Crvena Zvezda (from Serbia). I decided to invite my groupmate from the university to join us. During the match he often asked us who is the player with the ball, who has just scored and other similar questions. At the end of the day, he told us that Crvena deserved to win (2-1). Fortunately, it was not a derby or a showdown because in that case my mates would probably make my groupmate him eat his words and I would be impotent to protect him wouldn't be able to do anything about it!

Rich - The Premier Skills English Team


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Rich
11/04/2017 09:50
Spain
Liverpool
2921

Hi Shobonenok,

I hope your football friends will go easy on your university friend! We've all got to learn somewhere! I've made a few corrections below. Let me know if you have any questions.

I can't tell talk on behalf of the whole Russian and or even Moscow population speaking about the most popular topics. However, I can do it on behalf of students. Lots of us discuss football: Russian, international football and foreign leagues. The English and Spanish leagues are the most popular among abroad foreign ones. The other topics are: education, career, relationships etc.
I have several friends who knows a lot about their football clubs or national teams which they support, but not about the whole of football. One of my best friends knows a lot about Spartak Moscow (his father and grandfather support this club too), Arsenal, Barcelona and Borussia Dortmund. However, he knows a lot about Man Utd, Newcastle Utd, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, too. If I tell him that he is a fake fan because he knows a lot about football, he will probably get hot under the collar and it will be better for me to say it was a joke to avoid being thrashed(this sounds old fashioned) beaten up :D
In my point of view, it's better to avoid lying. If someone is going to watch the a football match for the first time during his life - please, don't pretend to be a fan or a wiseacre (this is very uncommon and old fashioned - 'smart-aleck' 'know-it-all' or 'know-all' are better or 'wiseass' but this last one is a bit rude and could offend if used in some situations!! Here is a podcast about the word 'wiseacre' Recently my mates from the Spartak's supporters community and I have met at the pub to watch the friendly game against Crvena Zvezda (from Serbia). I decided to invite my groupmate from the university to join us. During the match he often asked us who is the player with the ball, who has just scored and other similar questions. At the end of the day, he told us that Crvena deserved to win (2-1). Fortunately, it was not a derby or a showdown because in that case my mates would probably make my groupmate him eat his words and I would be impotent to protect him wouldn't be able to do anything about it!

Rich - The Premier Skills English Team

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elghoul
10/04/2017
DZ
9105
points

1.Football is the most popular topic of men conversation. Women prefer kitchen chating and family gossips.

2.I know  lots of football fans but some of them cannot in fact watch a football match. They speak louder than others and details of their stories are memorized sayings from real football experts.

3. Some children after the one of the first newly national team against Csekoslovaky say that these strangers have legs like horses ones.

football phrase, double leg win.

 


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elghoul
10/04/2017 14:53
Algeria
Arsenal
9105

1.Football is the most popular topic of men conversation. Women prefer kitchen chating and family gossips.

2.I know  lots of football fans but some of them cannot in fact watch a football match. They speak louder than others and details of their stories are memorized sayings from real football experts.

3. Some children after the one of the first newly national team against Csekoslovaky say that these strangers have legs like horses ones.

football phrase, double leg win.

 

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aragorn1986
10/04/2017
ME
6922
points

In my country you can often hear that we have more football managers than players. It's because of the fact that the majority of the fans do not hesitate to critisize big managers when things are not going so smooth and they all have 'solution' for the problem though they've never played football on professional level. I suppose it would be the same case or similar in many other countries. Yes, some fans support only big clubs out of blue.


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aragorn1986
10/04/2017 15:28
Montenegro
Arsenal
6922

In my country you can often hear that we have more football managers than players. It's because of the fact that the majority of the fans do not hesitate to critisize big managers when things are not going so smooth and they all have 'solution' for the problem though they've never played football on professional level. I suppose it would be the same case or similar in many other countries. Yes, some fans support only big clubs out of blue.

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kwesimanifest
10/04/2017
GH
14285
points

football is one of the most important topics that are discussed in my country in addition to politics,the economy and entertainment or showbiz among others.


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kwesimanifest
10/04/2017 15:48
Ghana
Manchester United
14285

football is one of the most important topics that are discussed in my country in addition to politics,the economy and entertainment or showbiz among others.

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kwesimanifest
10/04/2017
GH
14285
points

I think its best that one states clearly when he or she doesn't have any or limited knowledge of a said issue so as to set the caveat for whatever utterances or discussions there maybe.


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kwesimanifest
10/04/2017 15:57
Ghana
Manchester United
14285

I think its best that one states clearly when he or she doesn't have any or limited knowledge of a said issue so as to set the caveat for whatever utterances or discussions there maybe.

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kwesimanifest
10/04/2017
GH
14285
points

This week's phrase is to ** *** ****** ****


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kwesimanifest
10/04/2017 16:02
Ghana
Manchester United
14285

This week's phrase is to ** *** ****** ****

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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017
SD
1925
points

I think the phrase of this week is to "** *** ****** ****"


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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017 17:43
Sudan
Liverpool
1925

I think the phrase of this week is to "** *** ****** ****"

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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017
SD
1925
points

1./ In our country younger people talk about football a lot, but older people often talk about politics

3./ one day i was in a cafe watching Real Madrid vs Some team in La Liga which i don't remember it's name , and it was a closed match
Luka Modric scored the winner with a fantastic thunderbolt from outside the box, While some people went crazy by cheering and shouting, someone said the goal is fantastic and Modric deserves to play in a much bigger team,
and someone asked him "what do you mean?" he replied "teams like Bayern Munich or Manchester Utd" all the people at the club laughed hilariously !


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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017 19:01
Sudan
Liverpool
1925

1./ In our country younger people talk about football a lot, but older people often talk about politics

3./ one day i was in a cafe watching Real Madrid vs Some team in La Liga which i don't remember it's name , and it was a closed match
Luka Modric scored the winner with a fantastic thunderbolt from outside the box, While some people went crazy by cheering and shouting, someone said the goal is fantastic and Modric deserves to play in a much bigger team,
and someone asked him "what do you mean?" he replied "teams like Bayern Munich or Manchester Utd" all the people at the club laughed hilariously !

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Rich
11/04/2017
ES
2921
points

Very funny, Ahmed! Not sure Manchester Utd fans would be too happy about this!!


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Rich
11/04/2017 09:52
Spain
Liverpool
2921

Very funny, Ahmed! Not sure Manchester Utd fans would be too happy about this!!

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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017
SD
1925
points

in activity 1

the are of a league table where you move down to a lower division

isn't here somthing unclear?


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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017 19:17
Sudan
Liverpool
1925

in activity 1

the are of a league table where you move down to a lower division

isn't here somthing unclear?

Rich's picture
Rich
10/04/2017
ES
2921
points

Hi Ahmed 

It should have said the areA of the league table...... Thanks for spotting it. I've changed it now.

Rich - The Premier Skills English Team


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Rich
10/04/2017 19:51
Spain
Liverpool
2921

Hi Ahmed 

It should have said the areA of the league table...... Thanks for spotting it. I've changed it now.

Rich - The Premier Skills English Team

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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017
SD
1925
points

that's allright

i would allways like my comments to be corrected, but i forget to write "correct me" at the beginning, so i will be pleased every time i find my comment is being corrected


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Ahmed Adam Mamado
10/04/2017 21:08
Sudan
Liverpool
1925

that's allright

i would allways like my comments to be corrected, but i forget to write "correct me" at the beginning, so i will be pleased every time i find my comment is being corrected

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RafaelRC
14/04/2017
BR
7894
points

Correct me.
Football is the most popular topic of conversation in Brazil, the football make part of our culture. Another important topics are work, politics, music and the things that happen daily.
There are many fake fans that don't support by teams but like to watch the national team, mainly in the world cup.
I've heard who is the guy of yellow??? Was the referee :D


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RafaelRC
14/04/2017 11:31
Brazil
Leicester City
7894

Correct me.
Football is the most popular topic of conversation in Brazil, the football make part of our culture. Another important topics are work, politics, music and the things that happen daily.
There are many fake fans that don't support by teams but like to watch the national team, mainly in the world cup.
I've heard who is the guy of yellow??? Was the referee :D

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alimiloud
15/04/2017
DZ
160
points

good

 


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alimiloud
15/04/2017 00:12
Algeria
Chelsea
160

good

 

Leaderboard

Top Scorers
RankNameScore
1dvd_02315343
2Emir Veličanstveni14341
3kwesimanifest14285
4Mon12875
5Buchiy9443
6Liubomyr9369
7shobonenok9234
8elghoul9105
9Alex_from_Ukraine8821
10RafaelRC7894
Country ranking
RankNameScore
1Ukraine37405
2Bosnia and Herzegovina29172
3Serbia27598
4Spain24659
5Vietnam23160
6Albania23000
7Macedonia19390
8Egypt18949
9Russia17963
10Ghana14664
Club ranking
RankNameScore
1Manchester United104785
2Arsenal84578
3Liverpool78150
4Chelsea62466
5Leicester City24131
6Manchester City23677
7Tottenham Hotspur13495
8Watford9893
9West Ham United3694
10Everton1626

Level

3
Average: 3 (1 vote)

Goals

Skills: Listening

Vocabulary: Phrases at the match

Language: Should and Shouldn't